On September 3, Professor Deborah A. Geier was a guest on the “Sound of Ideas” program on WCPN, where she discussed the ins and outs of the optional payroll tax deferral that was the subject of President Trump’s August 8 Executive Order.
Her segment begins at about minute 38 at this link: https://www.ideastream.org/programs/sound-of-ideas/cuyahoga-county-and-tri-c-partner-to-train-law-enforcement-officers-in-de-escalation-techniques.